DOTE & FF members - READ THIS

[AMCpassion]

Ok, I've seen these 2 groups having animosity towards each other, but never as much as just recently and I am really hoping that we can grow up and start behaving like rational and civil people.

It is completely fine for Rylee Ravers to bash Kendall and it is completely fine for Rendall Ravers to bash Greenlee - they are fictional characters that don't have real feelings. But I think it is absolutely ridiculous and disrespectful to bash the actresses Alicia Minshew and Rebecca Budig which is not going on too much, but just to state, but the biggest thing right now is the bashing of members simply for their couple preference. It's always great when there is no bashing at all. Just because a person likes Rendall doesn't mean they don't like Greenlee, and just because a person likes Rylee doesn't mean they don't like Kendall.

I would like to propose a truce between the members of Dancing On The Edge and Forever Fate that we will not bash one another and/or go to the other group solely to spy on them.

Any signers?

(if any of you on this list don't approve of the signature I put for you, just say so and I will remove you)

1. Julie (Juls14 on DOTE)
2. Crissy (clrodgers on DOTE)
3. Con (ConAMC on FF)
4. Brianna (briesee on DOTE)
5. Amanda (CamMathisonFan on FF)
6. Shannon (Shannon1SoapFan on DOTE)
7. AMCAddicted (AMCAddicted on DOTE)
8. AMCGHfan
9. Brooke (Brooke22 on DOTE)
10. Tina (TinaGHGirl on DOTE)
11. Sammi (pinevalleychica on FF)
12. Heather (XxHeatherliciousxX on FF)

[clrodgers]

First of all, thank you Julie for all your good intentions with making this post. Your kindness in trying to do something positive for both fanbases is something to be admired.

With that said, I don't know if what you hoped to accomplish is possible at this point.

The trust that was built between these two fanbases to agree to disagree, has been broken. Once we were committed to disagreeing, debating but not letting it get personal. Sure there were mistakes made along the way, but we were always able to smooth them over, and begin the process of peaceful coexistence again.

From my point of view, after I was bashed on FF, I just don't know if I can find the common ground to start rebuilding any trust again.

However, I would like to ask DOTE members and FF members to try to keep our disagreements off of public boards. I don't think it's fair to the other posters of Fallin, SON, SOC, etc to constantly have a war going on between our two fanbases. It's alot to ask, and I actually doubt that it can happen. Someone will eventually bash Kendall, and Rendall fans will jump in to defend her. Or someone will bash Greenlee, and the Rylee fans will jump in to defend their girl. It's going to happen.

But I hope everyone will try to keep in mind that we are all fans of All My Children, and we are REAL people, with REAL feelings, and insults, bashes, etc hurt.

Again, thanks to Julie for trying. But I don't know if the peace is something that can be accomplished right now.

Crissy

[AMCpassion]

Well, I'm a Rendall Raver and I defend Greenlee as hard as any Rylee fan would, and I think that people should be respectful of that also.

[ConAMC]

Julie, thanks for starting this thread. As a Rylee fan (and a Kendall fan), I've seen the animosity between these two fanbases grow and it's come down to a point where a) the personal attacks are causing stress for some fans and b) many of us are having a hard time enjoying our couple.

I try to keep things as civil as possible and ignore fanbase wars, and that's why I like Fallin so much. It's a great positive atmosphere where we can express our opinions and not get bashed for doing so, a rare thing to find with general boards.

And I don't think anyone can stop spying. It'd be nice, but somehow I don't think we can control what everyone does. I'm pretty sure as long as this ''war'' will continue, the spying will too.

[Brianna]

I agree with what Con said.

But I think there will always be animosity between these two fanbases. When tensions are high, things are said and then regretted later. I always try to remember that these characters are fictional and that real people shouldn't be brought into it. But once things are said about real people, it makes it kind of hard to forget and then things with the other fanbase can get chaotic. That is why I think it is easier to get along if both fanbases just leave one another alone.

And Julie, while I do appreciate that you've started this thread and tried to clear the air, I'm not sure if this is the right place for it. But I am thankful that the moderators are letting us discuss it.

[CamMathisonFan]

As the admin of Forever Fate I feel as though I should leave a message also.

The quote said by Brianna really stuck out in my head: "When tensions are high, things are said and then regretted later. ". This is something that happened to me while talking with Chrissy and it is one of the biggest regrets of my 'internet' life.

I've been in board wars prior to the Ryan/Greenlee/Kendall stuff and its always hard on a poster knowing that things like this happen. Its even harder on an admin of one of the boards, take my word for that.

I dont think there will ever be a solution to this and I hate knowing that but there really isn't. Nobody knows which posters are civil and which ones arent and I think that the best thing everyone can do is try to be civil. Not every Ryan/Greenlee fan hates Kendall and not every Ryan/Kendall fan hates Greenlee, but there is the majority that does and people just have to accept that. Not everyone can like the same couple as you do, we all have different tastes.

All I ask from both the boards is to lower the 'bashing' on public boards (Like Chrissy said). Many of these pubic boards are viewed by workers from ABC and if they see the continuing fued between both fanbases they can take away both couples in a moments notice. And while everyone has the right to state their own opinion, you should know when things go to far, yet some people don't figure out what is right and what is wrong, and that may never end.

I truely hope things will calm down a lot betwen the two fanbases and that we can try to keep the peace.

[AMCpassion]

Amanda, I just want you to know that I was sincerely a Rylee Raver when I was with your group, and I'm still a fan of Ryan and Greenlee as best friends but not as lovers anymore, I simply switched sides of the triangle and that happens and I had a very peaceful departure letter and I hope you don't think I was some kind of "spy" 'cause that's just not my style.

[clrodgers]

I gave this alot of thought last night, and the only thing that I can think of to help ease the tensions is to work together to rid the sources of trouble from both our boards.

What I propose, is that we exchange a list of our members IP addresses. For privacy purposes, we do not exchange member names with the IP addresses...just IP addresses only.

Doing this will allow both boards to be able to clean out our member lists, and be able to get past the whole issue of "spies".

Since this would take a while to compile the list, I propose that we give each other 2 weeks to come up with the list, and then exchange lists by email on September 6, 2004.

This would serve as a sign of good faith on both parts that we sincerely want the tension to be eased, and that despite our disagreements we are willing to work together for the good of both fanbases.

So, Amanda, if you are willing to do this, let me know, and I will have the admins of my board start to work on a list.

This is the only first step I can think of in trying to fix what has gone wrong.

Crissy

[ShannonCFF]

That is a good idea Crissy. It will help out a lot. I never been to FF but I hope Amanda will agree with this.

[AMCAddicted]

As a member of DOTE, I was shocked to learn that posts from our board were being copied and ridiculed on Forever Fate. I can't believe some posters are so childish.

I think Crissy's suggestion is excellent. There may occasionally be people who change their minds and switch sides, but most posters at the various websites I frequent have made up their mind about each of these couples.

And just for the record, even though I'm well-known as a Rendall fanatic, I still like Greenlee; I just want her to become the feisty, complex character I used to love again.

Steve

[ConAMC]

AMCAddicted said:

As a member of DOTE, I was shocked to learn that posts from our board were being copied and ridiculed on Forever Fate. I can't believe some posters are so childish.

I was shocked to learn the same things about our posts being ridiculed on DOTE. I honestly don't think all fans are like this, and the majority try not to be, but there are a few bad apples.

[CamMathisonFan]

I do think that is a good idea Chrissy, you know that. Can you email me and let me know how you wanna go about this, please.

[AMCGHfan]

I completley agree with trying to be as civil as we ca about this and not to spy or bash the actresses.

[AMCpassion]

AMCGHfan said:

I completley agree with trying to be as civil as we ca about this and not to spy or bash the actresses.

Thanks AMCGHfan, do you want to be on the list? If so, what is your name and what is your screen name on either DOTE or FF?

[Brooke]

I totally agree on being civil and not to spy and not bashing the actresses

Brooke